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30 Mar 2003 — 11:05am
30 Mar 2003 — 11:05am
Sorry, not the type 3. (By the way Chaucer's translation of Boethius De consolatione philosophiae, printed by Caxton in 1478, contained a lot of type 3.)
The typeface shown above was used for Sarum Hours V and VI, one octavo and one quarto.
So, you have the typeface and 2 books to find.
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30 Mar 2003 — 12:24pm
Matha
You've only really left me with Type 8, which I only have a lowercase specimen of. It matches this but the key to fraktur is its uppercase. Type 5's lowercase does not match and Type 7 seems to have been little used for bookwork. Nor do its caps match.
At any rate, I only have reference to Type 8 being in Tretyse of Love and Ars Moriendi.
30 Mar 2003 — 1:00pm
Gerald,
It is type 8.
I hope this didn't take up too much of your morning. I chose a sample without too many examples of uppercase letters, so maybe it was a little difficult. Well done, anyway.
I don't have any refernce to Tretyse of Love in my source (Nicholas Barker's 'Caxton's Typography' in the Journal of the Printing Historical Society no. 11)
Of the four books he says were printed using this typeface, only 2 survive :
Ars moriendi
and a reprint of Mirk's Liber festivalis,
both partially set in type 8.
Sarum Hours V and VI, entirely set in type 8, have disappeared.
Barker suggests four possible suppliers of type 8: Anthoine V
30 Mar 2003 — 1:19pm
Matha
Well, Barker would certainly know. He was part of the team for UCLA's The Aldine Press project and also helped us work out some uncertainties with our Gutenberg book, Black-letter. Amazing depth of knowledge.
Updike's tome has a showing of Type 8 intermingled with Type 6 in Tretyse of Love, 1493. Caxton was one funky typographer.
I guess I'm up then. Think I'll stay way, way, away from historical stuff for a while!!!
All best
30 Mar 2003 — 2:50pm
Easy stuff
Despite all the typographic innovations of the twentieth century there aren
30 Mar 2003 — 3:16pm
Am I allowed to answer this? I'm confused
30 Mar 2003 — 3:42pm
Matha
I think Rule 16 allows you to. I asked this very question yesterday. The gamemaster doesn't seem to be around. Give it a shot, get me off the hook here.
Ger
30 Mar 2003 — 3:49pm
30 Mar 2003 — 3:57pm
One of these is wrong. You got a very hard one though.
Am I supposed to tell you the correct ones!?!
Oh, by the way, I've got a ton of reference books that need reshelving since this morning!
30 Mar 2003 — 4:09pm
Sorry about the messed up library. I reckon the at sign is wrong as it's been around for a long time. I was thinking about the asterisk but that's an oldie too. I'm going to settle for:
backslash, bullet, euro
m.
30 Mar 2003 — 4:15pm
Nope. You did throw out the wrong one. But while the term bullet may be relatively recent (?) it is essentially a midpoint. I'll follow Bringhurst on that one. So you still have one to go.
[I gave you a very good clue in my last post.]
Gerald
30 Mar 2003 — 4:36pm
Bloody hell! I was never any good at mastermind. I take it the euro symbol doesn't count then.
\ @ and something else. Is 'ton' the clue?
30 Mar 2003 — 4:48pm
Backslash is correct, euro is correct.
No ton is not the clue, that was sort of the anti-clue, in retrospect. Look up one line.
Another clue: It was first proposed in 1962, if I recall correctly!?!
30 Mar 2003 — 4:54pm
Ok. Backslash, Euro, correct symbol
30 Mar 2003 — 5:18pm
I'm off to bed.Talk to you tomorrow.
M.
30 Mar 2003 — 5:21pm
Not yet.
Further clues!?!
It appeared first in an ATF metal typeface in 1966, and was favored for a bit during the photofilm years, but fell out of popular use. Remington included it as an optional key on its typewriters.
In the digital era it is included as a Windows symbol font, and is in the Unicode character set.
30 Mar 2003 — 7:40pm
GET A FRIGGIN' ROOM!!!
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Interrobang. Also called Exclaquestion.
BTW, the at sign is older than the 20th century, I'm pretty sure. I'd have to check Legros & Grant - but I don't feel like it.
hhp
30 Mar 2003 — 8:24pm
Hey bud,
bit of a mood tonight?
Yeah, the at sign goes way back.
But yes, it's the lowly interrobang. Found four weights of it in Wingdings 2 font tonight.
But I can't give this to you, I'm sure, until "you" provide all three answers. Or can I?
Gamemaster?
Americana.pdf (4.5 k)
30 Mar 2003 — 8:29pm
Nah, I don't want the cash anyway, just the glory. ;-)
BTW, I'm not sure about the backslash either. I'd have to check "Pause and Effect".
hhp
30 Mar 2003 — 10:24pm
Yeah, the glory.
See Bringhurst on the backslash.
Now you have two.
Time to talk about cash then!?!
[ You know, I really hated doing that !?! ]
30 Mar 2003 — 11:49pm
If I say interrobang, euro, backslash can I have the glory instead?
Matha.
31 Mar 2003 — 10:10am
Matha
Yes, those are the rules, far as I understand them.
Carry on
31 Mar 2003 — 2:51pm
Ok then, since I'm covered in glory,
What script is this?
What's the language?
Who most recently proposed it for inclusion in the unicode standard?
31 Mar 2003 — 3:03pm
Klingon pIqaD
tlhIngan Hol
Michael Everson
31 Mar 2003 — 3:04pm
Man, this is too easy.
The script is democratic neue
The language is new arabic
It was proposed by George Bush
31 Mar 2003 — 3:07pm
That was inhumanly quick Tiffany. You should be in Star Trek yourself.
Hats off. You're the winner. Hit us with a good one.
Matha.
31 Mar 2003 — 3:10pm
Too much coffee, Gerald. You're losing the run of yourself.
M.
31 Mar 2003 — 3:10pm
Ok. Let me think. :
31 Mar 2003 — 3:12pm
George Bush can't read.
31 Mar 2003 — 3:15pm
and I don't think he knows how to make proposals either.