Blackletter/Calligraphic typeface

Karlkaxon's picture

Hi guys,

I'm looking for a typeface thats kind of calligraphic/blackletter ish, but I can't seem to find out which letter it is. Could you guys help me out?

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donshottype's picture

Did not recognize it off hand.
Some substitutes:
Clairvaux
http://www.myfonts.com/search/clairvaux/fonts/
Libra
http://www.myfonts.com/search/libra/fonts/
Font trivia: This font was used for the title of Galaxy Science Fiction, a magazine that ran for many years from the early 1950s onwards.
OakWood See http://typophile.com/node/108355
Don

fvilanakis's picture

All following fonts are matching the sample but I have no idea about their legitimacy, maybe somebody else can find the origin of the font by examining this list:

Alpine - By Bill Horton for the MAC called Alpine rg 89. Porting and Patching to the PC by Steve Shubitz*Published Perfection!*(619)546
Alpine - Copyright (c) Typographer Mediengestaltung, 2000
Bassette Light
BD Springer - Copyright 1991, Atech Software, Carlsbad CA
Civic - Converted by ALLTYPE
CornwallScript - Copyright1996 Highlander Graphics Software. All Rights Reserved.
CreaChancerySSK - Copyright 1993 Southern Software, Inc
Crypt 2 - Cambridge Fontworks
Heidelbe-Light - Converted by ALLTYPE
Heidelbe-Normal - Converted by ALLTYPE
Heidelstein - Generated by Fontographer 3.5
Heldenleiben Normal
HelgarChancery - From the WSI Font Collection. Digital font data Copyright (c)1996 Weatherly Systems, Inc.
QTHeidelbergType - Copyright (c) 1992 QualiType 1-800-950-2921 to Order ROE
RSHeidleberg - Converted by ALLTYPE
RSHeidleberg - Copyright 1991, Atech Software, Carlsbad CA
ZEPPLIN - (C) 1993 ATTITUDE, INC. All Rights Reserved.
ZeppScript - Zepplin. (C) 1993 ATTITUDE, INC. All Rights Reserved. Any reproduction or duplication prohibited. (( Metrics corrected, punctuation added, renamed for conflicts, file fixed and recompiled by MEG 10-14-2001. ))

donshottype's picture

Thanks Fivos for the extensive index of pirates and possible independent digitizers.
Most of the pirates are obvious, e.g. Southern and SSK.
There may have been more than one original digitization. It would take some checking to determine if the fonts seem to have a common digital source. This is compounded by the fact that the font was probably originally in ps format and converted to ttf, with varying degrees of accuracy, and some of the fonts have been tinkered with for various reasons. From the Horton reference it could perhaps originally have been a Mac font. Preliminary digging is not conclusive.
One of the candidates for being an individual source is WSI. See Luc Devroye http://luc.devroye.org/fonts-25319.html
Don

Mike F's picture

The original was called MacHumaine by Bill Horton, 1989 or 1990. He put it in the public domain. It was a very badly made font technically and, in 1993, Doug Miles updated it. I don't know if it was then or later that it got the name Alpine. It was obvious why folks preferred the "improved" versions over the original, though - it was simply more usable.

Mike F's picture

Here is a website that has been around for many years and never changed. It offers those early-digital freeware/shareware Mac fonts along with documentation. If you go to the Serif section, you'll find a version of the font called Heidelberg (explains some ripoff naming, eh?) by Bill Horton.

I no longer have the software installed to enable to me open a Mac sit/bin file on my PC, but perhaps someone who is able will see what's there?

donshottype's picture

Thanks Mike. I also have lost the ability to convert these old Mac files..
So I take it that the most probable original name is MacHumaine, which for some reason did not make Fivos' original list. For PC users we look for the version with the info "created by Bill Horton 1990; updated by Doug Miles 1993?"
So how did Bill Horton create it. Fortunately the copy I found included a text file:
---start quote---
January 1989
A few years back, I created a bitmapped font using FONTASTIC, originally called Philo, and after some alterations, Fancy Chancery. It was unique mainly for its removal of dots where smooth curves would not be permitted, thus giving an overall appearance of gray. The font actually prints quite cleanly (particularly at 12 point) on the Imagewriter and was only a 24 pt. bitmap initially.

I am pleased to learn that the font has shown up in numerous places with several different names and variations, from Fluent Fonts of CasadyWare (Casady Greene) (with my permission) to bulletin boards here and there. Most recently I received from Doug Miles in Washington state a newly done bitmap in a heavier weight plus a postscript font executed by Marion Delahan in Oklahoma based upon the same font.

Coincidentally, I recently started redrawing the original Fancy Chancery on Fontographer for Laserwriter. When I received the Delahan version I decided on a complete redrawing and renaming of the postscript font. The result is MacHumaine.

There have been inquiries as to how I intend to distribute MacHumaine. I wish it to remain in the public domain to be used by anyone who wants to take the time to copy it. Additionally, the package contains the original Fontographer workfile as well as the AFM file so anyone who wishes to alter or improve it, may do so if they have Fontographer. The bitmaps are absolutely pure FONTOGRAPHER generated with no tweaking. For my own purposes this is satisfactory, however if you would like to see them cleaner, have at it with Fontastic. I would not be extremely happy to learn that MacHumaine is being sold, but I am not quite sure how that eventuality would be dealt with. Hopefully this Read Me, which accompanies the font, will make folks realize they need not buy it as it is available without charge. Anyone who wishes to use MacHumaine as a screen display in a commercial program or in conjunction with a commercial program has my permission to do so. Only outright sale of the font is discouraged.

Historically, the font MacHumaine, as its name is intended to imply, is based on calligraphic handwriting and is not too distant from Zapf Chancery Black. That font, drawn by Hermann Zapf, was not the model for MacHumaine, but Zapf also used chancery cursive handwriting as a the basis for his font. MacHumaine is a sort of pot pourri of calligraphic strokes and flourishes that, to my eye, seem to be pretty well integrated and, especially when italicized on the Mac, gives an appearance of italic handwriting. I do hope you enjoy it. Oddly, it prints quite well even at small sizes and is quite readable. Please do not use it ALL CAPS. Generally calligraphic styles do not lend themselves to this treatment and this one is no exception. Use key caps to check for a few added characters. Any comments or suggestions on the font are welcome.

Bill Horton
1205 De la Vina Street
Santa Barbara CA 93101
(805) 962-3964
---end quote---
So we seem to have a license that authorizes use of this version of the font.
DL link:
http://www.abstractfonts.com/font/2571
Don

Mike F's picture

Nice find, Don.

This PC version includes a bunch of splendid alternates. I wonder if they were in the original MacHumaine or that Heidelberg version.

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