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Do you recognize these two fonts ?
Look hand-drawn to me, as all repeating letters look different (2 /f, 2 /u, 2/l).
Released in 1948 in the era of great show-card lettering.
Compare your first image with this style sample for lettering artists:
Typophiles posting system has gone wonky in the past few days.
I wonder why the "internal server error" message?
But when you reopen the thread the post is made.
thx a lot Dan !