Ferdinand Regular: critique greatly appreciated

altmannhaus's picture

Hello typophile community, I would love any advice and criticism that you might offer regarding my first font. I intend on using it to break into the type design industry and have been tweaking it constantly. I think the time has come for other, more experienced, eyes to have a go.

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eliason's picture

At their thickest your round strokes should be thicker than your straight vertical ones, in order to seem optically equal.

altmannhaus's picture

Thanks for the tip, I'll adjust accordingly and repost an update soon.

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Here is a new alphabet set with heavier curves to visually balance with the straight strokes. I've also adjusted the weight of the terminals in the /G/ /C/ /c/ /S/ & /s/ to help them at smaller sizes.

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Update: I've reworked many of the letters, made terminals mostly consistent, and lessened the contrast greatly. Some of the emphasis was mis-angled on a few of the lowercase bowls, and I think I've gotten a handle on that. Feeling better about this now.

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Catharsis's picture

Very respectable for a first font!

Some letters feel too wide to me; {u h z E F M Z} in particular. You seem to have a different arch design in {h} than in {n m u}; the latter look better in my opinion. Your previous {g} seemed more in character than the new open one. The {t} is a bit timid. {C G} look like they bit into a lemon; maybe relax their apertures a bit?

Cheers!

altmannhaus's picture

Thanks for the compliment and tips Christian! I will take a closer look at the width and apertures of the letters. I've always wanted to find a chart of standard widths of letters as they relate to the m. If you know of anything, I would appreciate it. Will post some revisions soon.

Conrad

eliason's picture

I've always wanted to find a chart of standard widths of letters as they relate to the m. If you know of anything, I would appreciate it.

The trick is in learning to see and balance the counter spaces. If you look at the beginning of "phonmusik" in that last image, the /o/ captures less interior space area-wise than the /p/, and the /p/ less than the /h/. The closer those are to visually balanced, the better. No chart needed, just your eyes!

altmannhaus's picture

Thanks again. I hadn't thought to compare the counters. I suppose designing the white is as important as the black.

Bogdan Oancea's picture

Really nice font :)

Since the first image has sentences with Romanian diacritics (my language), may I say that while the distance between them and the letter is good (so keep it the same) the comma-accent of lowercase |ț| and |ș| are too heavy – they should be a bit smaller – around 90% or even 80%, I'd say. (And FYI, most of the time the comma-accent diacritical mark should be smaller than the "regular" comma anyway).

Also, the circumflex of |â| should be nudged a bit to the right, to be centered to the upper extrema point of |a|.

cheers :)

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Bogdan, thanks for the great feedback on the diacritics. I'm currently working on a more decorative font based on a specific sample of Romanian Orthodox I found in Galati. I'll look you up for a review when it's ready.

(looking at your profile rang a bell, I just drove by this sign a month ago. Next time, I'll stop and buy you a drink)

The sample below is displaying the new countered characters as per the tips and discussion of a few days ago.

1996type's picture

Nice start, hope you're still working on this.

- n and h are still quite wide.
- I suggest horizontally flipping the top serif of d.
- You have a lot of curved detailing going on. Not sure I like all of them.
- Thickness of serifs is inconsistent. Compare the bottom serif of u to the top ones.
- The bottom of g looks a bit out of tune to me, shape-wise. Too futuristic-like
- middle stem in m needs a serif
- t is really narrow.

altmannhaus's picture

Thanks for the pointers Jasper. I haven't looked at this in a while for the sake of being able to look at it again with fresh eyes. I agree with your comments, and will be re-evaluating probably most-if-not-all of the other characters as well.

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