Help with a really black didone

maxispr's picture

Hello friends!
I'm writing because I feel I'm lost with my project.
I need your eyes here, because I'm tired of trying things and it seems this font has no solution.

I want to make "the boldest" didone out there, so I started experimenting and this was my result.

The problem is that some letters (ie the "e" or the "v" etc) don't work in small sizes.
In the lowest part of the image I wrote "Mexico and Pistilli" So you can see what I mean.
Pistilli turns really black (and that's what I want) but Mexico has so many white space between letters that it drives me crazy.

Is there something you suggest?
I tried making the stems of those "open" letters bolder, but it seems it's not the solution.

Any referent?

Thanks!
Max

hrant's picture

This is quite juicy!

some letters (ie the "e" or the "v" etc) don't work in small sizes.

Well yeah.
The "solution"? It would be like curing the king's headache by chopping off his head.

hhp

maxispr's picture

Thanks hrant;
Yes, it's not easy to see a solution here. I also can't find too many referents, no more than one ore two, which actually are not this black.
Even in Bodoni Poster (Adobe)
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/adobe/bodoni-poster/
If you write Pistilli - Mexico, there's difference of weight between the words... Am I too crazy?

J Mayfield's picture

Tough problem indeed. I do think that in the case of the word “beautiful”, the “a” in the lower example works much better than the upper.
With “pistilli”, in a didone typeface I'm working on I increased the spacing between the letter pairs ll, lh, and lb by kerning them. I think that could be done here slightly, to keep a more even texture if you want.

maxispr's picture

Thanks guys.

Now I've got this question.
Which of these CAPS do you think that work better?
taller medium shorter?

J Mayfield's picture

Not certain that one stands out, though I prefer the taller caps. They seem more impactful at these display sizes.

eliason's picture

I'd vote medium.

eliason's picture

(Double post)

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