Typophile - Drop caps with "snug" first line - Comments

Insert a Hair Space —

charles_e — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:22:29 -0700

Insert a Hair Space — that’s the smallest one —

Just one more reason I put a zero-width space in my fonts. I believe it is U + 200B. This is also handy for kerning drop caps back in the margin, when you want optical alignment on the left edge of the characters.

Brilliant, thanks! Hair

khomlong — Wed, 14 May 2008 05:26:30 -0700

Brilliant, thanks! Hair turned out to be the right choice for the drop cap space following directly after the initial. For a three story A, I had to add another hair space (for a total of three) on the first line, kerning by the minimum value of –1000 between the 2nd and 3rd hair space and by –600 between the last hair space and the text. It looks right to me, thanks again!

Apparently, InDesign tries

Theunis de Jong — Wed, 14 May 2008 03:32:58 -0700

Apparently, InDesign tries to outsmart you when you insert two (or more) spaces directly after the cap. If you zoom in on the drop cap, with Hidden Characters on, you can see the spaces are discarded by the drop cap.

However ... if you insert something else than a space, your old trick works just fine. Insert a Hair Space — that’s the smallest one — and you can kern the first line as much to the left as you want.

Although it does the trick, ID has a minimal amount of space between the ’cap and the text. It works much better if you set the amount of drop characters to “2”, insert a small space (hairy, thin, or whatever looks best for the second line only), and right after that another hair space, where you can adjust the position of the first line only.

The heading should read:

khomlong — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:40:50 -0700

The heading should read: Drop caps with “snug” first line. Sorry!

Drop caps with "snug" first line

khomlong — Tue, 13 May 2008 05:51:12 -0700

At least in Scandinavian typography, the first line following a drop cap should be closer to the cap than the others, unless the drop cap constitutes a single letter word. Is there a way to do this in InDesign CS3? In the early nineties, in my student newspaper in Bergen, Norway, we used to do this in Quark 3.x by inserting two spaces between the drop cap and the next letter, and then kerning between the spaces. I’ve tried this in InDesign, but I can’t seem to make it work. Anyone?