Typophile - Typeface for web and print - Comments

A list apart has an article

YvesPeeters — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:26:57 -0700

A list apart has an article about online type.
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/cssatten

>Does hinting affect

mike_duggan — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:10:05 -0700

>Does hinting affect printing? Or is it a combination of modified forms and hinting that make a “proper” screen type family?

Hinting can affect higher resolution output, especially for controlling undershoots and overshoots for instance. The effects of hinting however, if done well should not be noticable on the printer, but will have a noticalbe effect when the font is displayed on lower resolution screens, to control consistency of x-heights, stem weights, Cap Heights, middle bars etc. As far as I know the fonts you are referring to are TrueType hinted fonts, and will be different from their Type 1 cousins on screen as well as in print, however subtely.

Mike

Perhaps Mr. Phinney can

SuperUltraFabulous — Mon, 11 Jun 2007 01:10:09 -0700

Perhaps Mr. Phinney can chime in on my questions.

Also read this last sentence on this FontShop webpage:

http://www.fontshop.com/services/logo.php

In addition, laser-printing a logo in font format at small sizes is generally superior to printing an EPS image due to the font’s hinting.

Mikey

Is nobody going to address

hrant — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:44:40 -0700

Is nobody going to address Mike’s line of questioning?

hhp

Sorry I am not so

missgiggles — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 03:32:05 -0700

Sorry I am not so knowledgable as everyone on here but all I know is that usually the typefaces with less contrast of thin and thick strokes are used on web and TV etc due to the fact that they work on screen and do not lose their quality of their strokes etc.

I wonder if there any print

SuperUltraFabulous — Sat, 9 Jun 2007 15:29:49 -0700

I wonder if there any print differences in the Adobe Web Pro fonts and their regular cousins.

Does hinting affect printing? Or is it a combination of modified forms and hinting that make a “proper” screen type family?

Mike

Yves…good news from the

aluminum — Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:44:06 -0700

Yves...good news from the sIFR folks...looks like I should upgrade my Flashblock plug-in.

I’d go with one of

litera — Fri, 8 Jun 2007 01:25:55 -0700

I’d go with one of these:
http://www.adobe.com/type/browser/U/U_web-pages.html

Since you’ll be talking about usability I’d combine Minion and Myriad.

I think, I am not sure, the

lunyboy — Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:55:14 -0700

I think, I am not sure, the swf extension stands for “Shockwave Flash” and you can export from Director to a flash file that is readable by the flash plugin. This does not include the fun 3d stuff, as for other things, I am not sure.

BTW if you are only using it for headlines, then small readability will not be an issue... what body face(s) do you plan on specifing(respectively)?

Strange. This is what the

YvesPeeters — Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:38:14 -0700

Strange. This is what the sIFR site has to say about Flashblock:

We’ve worked with the developers of the Firefox FlashBlock extension to make sure sIFR text is automatically degraded to (X)HTML for users of recent versions of FlashBlock. When users install FlashBlock, they are demonstrating a bias against Flash (most likely because of the incredible amount of obnoxious and invasive advertising on the web these days) and we want to respect this bias.

“hehe. true it doenst work

aluminum — Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:10:57 -0700

“hehe. true it doenst work with flashblock but you can still read the content.(if no javascript or flash is found it uses the css)”

Actually, with flashblock, no, you can’t see either. Same with typophile. I don’t use flashblock here, but for some reason 9 out of 10 sIFR titles just don’t show up for me.

“eople with a lower system just get the content. That’s a nice way of designing imo”

I completely agree. Progressive enhancement is a great model for web design. And sIFR is a neat idea. Works most of the time but has a few major flaws for some folks.

hehe. true it doenst work

YvesPeeters — Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:01:36 -0700

hehe. true it doenst work with flashblock but you can still read the content.(if no javascript or flash is found it uses the css) Same goes for sites that are made for IE6. If done right people with internet explorer 5 can still read the content.

That’s what internet is all about imo. People with a state of the art computer get the content they payed for + some extras. People with a lower system just get the content. That’s a nice way of designing imo ^_^

ps I dislike most use of flash also, since it’s in many designs not even needed and hides content from google. ( I wish macromedia director had won the plugin-wars )

“And some people don’t

aluminum — Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:00:03 -0700

“And some people don’t use computers - sIFR doesn’t work for them either.”

Slopes are slippery, aren’t they?

> at home I use FlashBlock a

hrant — Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:08:44 -0700

> at home I use FlashBlock a lot

And some people don’t use computers - sIFR doesn’t work for them either.

hhp

“what’s wrong with sIFR?

aluminum — Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:56:38 -0700

“what’s wrong with sIFR? it does degrade nicely.”

Well for starters, it doesn’t work sometimes. Look at this site, for example...I can’t view most of the topic titles. Now, maybe that’s typophile’s fault and not sIFR’s. ;o)

But, that said, at home I use FlashBlock a lot. As I dislike most flash (or rather, the way most flash is implemented) so sIFR doesn’t work for me.

It’s not BAD, but it’s just yet-another-variable to go wrong in getting the information to your end users.

Typeface for web and print

YvesPeeters — Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:46:37 -0700

I was wondering if someone could suggest me a good typeface that does well in print and also in webdesign. I’m planning on using Sifr for webpage headings (flashfile that replaces fonts). I want the type to be as easy on the eyes as possible.

From what I found on the net, webfaces should have lots of white in the characters. That’s why my first thought was the Nexus family. But I’m not sure yet.

Anybody got some better suggestions plz?

many thnx

Yves Peeters

ps. I’m bored of seeing Din and Meta so they are no option ^_^