Type Battle! Week 2 (23 Jan)

Christian Robertson
23.Jan.2006 12.03pm
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TYPE BATTLE: Week 2 (23 Jan)

Here's your chance to stretch your type muscles on a weekly basis. Each game kicks off on Monday with a new challenge, and closes at midnight PST on Friday. Anyone may submit a design response to the challenge. You may enter as often as you wish. Post anytime. Critiques and comments are welcome throughout the game, from participants and spectators alike. Smack talk is encouraged.

Winner take all, no holds barred. May be the best designer win.

Requirements:

- Size: 600 width x 400 height.
- Color: Black and white only
- Format: Please save your graphics as PNG
- Only respond with the characters posted in the challenge.

// THIS WEEK'S CHALLENGE:
// Create three swash characters for Franklin Gothic.



dave bailey
23.Jan.2006 12.25pm
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I’m fairly certain what swash characters are...and have checked typowiki to no avail. Could we get an explanation for those of us not 100% on what we’re designing here? Thanks!


Jared Benson
23.Jan.2006 12.38pm
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1 2 3 4 5 6


Joe Pemberton
23.Jan.2006 12.57pm
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Can I suggest that the requirement say, “Create at least three swash characters for Franklin Gothic?”


dave bailey
23.Jan.2006 12.58pm
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Ok, thanks guys! This should be interesting since Franklin Gothic is such a neutral typeface.


cheshiredave
23.Jan.2006 3.16pm
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These are pretty basic, I guess, but here’s my first stab at it...

(revised post, now flouting two rules — thanks, Joe!)


Joe Pemberton
23.Jan.2006 4.20pm
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Dude, post “Rain King” please. Bollocks to the rules. =)

Or, you could do, “Richard Kegler”.


pica pusher
23.Jan.2006 6.02pm
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who needs rules? bring the swash!


Joe Pemberton
23.Jan.2006 6.02pm
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I’m only encouraging breaking the rules, because mine is going to and nobody is going to stop me! =)


dezcom
23.Jan.2006 7.24pm
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OK, if we are allowed to break the rules, here is my Franklin Gothic:

ChrisL


Jared Benson
23.Jan.2006 7.41pm
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Franklinstein. It’s alive! Alive!


paul d hunt
23.Jan.2006 7.56pm
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but where are your swashes, chris?


Christian Robertson
23.Jan.2006 8.41pm
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I don’t know how to introduce this:


Zara Evens
23.Jan.2006 9.07pm
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Christian, now that is just fantastic! You win.


Ricardo Cordoba
23.Jan.2006 9.17pm
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You guys have all cracked me up tonight!!!

But I suspect that the ideas for this contest are being hatched in the Black Lodge. ;-)


dewitte
23.Jan.2006 9.25pm
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frankie goes lowercase.


hrant
23.Jan.2006 9.36pm
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Don’t know why, but I’m getting this vibe that Franklin’s swashes
should be pixelated... Maybe using pixels of deceasing size with
distance; sort of metaphorical of Franklin having stroke contrast.

hhp


dewitte
23.Jan.2006 9.50pm
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Well, then let’s pixelate it.
Maybe that’s a good job for the microfoundry,
since pixels are so small.


dewitte
23.Jan.2006 9.57pm
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Jared Benson
23.Jan.2006 10.18pm
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Beautiful, Mattijs. Dig that terminal i.

Franklinstein rides again:


Joe Pemberton
23.Jan.2006 10.19pm
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Microsoft has the most famous use of Franklin Gothic. (Okay, so the logo is based on Franklin Gothic.) Of course, I had to keep the ’os’ ligature.


Zara Evens
23.Jan.2006 10.38pm
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Zara Evens
23.Jan.2006 10.43pm
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Punchcut dominates Franklin™


Christian Robertson
23.Jan.2006 11.13pm
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Extra points to jared and mattijs for doing characters that will work along side the default characters in the font.

Killer zed by the way, zara.


cheshiredave
23.Jan.2006 11.43pm
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I knew mine was too tame — badass work, y’all.

Joe, are those Snidely Whiplash mustaches you drew on there? If so, mightily well done.


fractal
24.Jan.2006 12.51am
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Go Franklin Go

pd


Ale Paul
24.Jan.2006 6.19am
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I did not resist so here is a fast one


pica pusher
24.Jan.2006 6.46am
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Wow I like the lowercase ones a lot more than I thought I would... can’t resist...

Now we back to rock the minuscule, hide yo eyes ya fool, can’t stop the Franklin from ranklin yo stankin rules!

(sorry)


engelhardt
24.Jan.2006 7.00am
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I’m loving this! You guys have all done great work so far. Keep it up!

I’m seeing Frankin Gothic in a whole new light now. I used to work in-house for an insurance company where FG was one of the corporate faces. Since then, I’ve found it a bit dull. But this — this makes me appreciate it all over again!

(Sorry, no entry from me — just a spectator/cheerleader here.)


hrant
24.Jan.2006 7.19am
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Pica pusher, that last one is super duper.

hhp


William Berkson
24.Jan.2006 7.19am
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Resistance is useless.

Damn you, you’ve made it even more so:

[edit: I got the T ok, then started on the D & A, when I got an attack of temporary sanity, and quit!]


Mark Simonson
24.Jan.2006 8.36am
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Not sure if that C works.


hrant
24.Jan.2006 9.01am
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Curl the top as well and it will.

hhp


pica pusher
24.Jan.2006 9.19am
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or maybe just the top?


Mark Simonson
24.Jan.2006 9.19am
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Hmm...

You might have something there, Hrant.


Joe Pemberton
24.Jan.2006 9.59am
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Dang, Pica (Dan), your stuff rocks. Morris Fuller Benton would be proud.

And, Mark, it’s just a given that we’re not worthy to be in your presence. =)


istitch
24.Jan.2006 10.17am
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Mark Simonson
24.Jan.2006 10.20am
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we’re not worthy

Oh, no. Don’t start that. You can stop by any time.

(I think you guys must be spying on me. I have something along these lines on my to-do list, so I’ve been thinking about this “problem” for a while. Not Franklin, though.)


pica pusher
24.Jan.2006 10.21am
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Thanks Joe. Actually I particularly liked your “nightmare before micro$oft”: completely unexpected.


Mark Simonson
24.Jan.2006 10.38am
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I like Christian’s, too. Franklin Gothic Floriated.


Joe Pemberton
24.Jan.2006 11.01am
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Dan (Pica), thanks. I’m glad you see the humor in it. It’s funny that you made the Tim Burton connection... clearly I need to work on my bezier skillz. (Inspired by FF Ginger.) =)


Miss Tiffany
24.Jan.2006 11.28am
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I have tears in my eyes. These are gorgeous. Testament to your talent. Some of these really take Franklin to a realistic new place.


dave bailey
24.Jan.2006 11.40am
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Grant Hutchinson
24.Jan.2006 11.54am
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Franklin Gothic gets ballsy!


Zara Evens
24.Jan.2006 12.45pm
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Lovely interpretation, Grant!


Zara Evens
24.Jan.2006 1.16pm
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pica pusher
24.Jan.2006 1.42pm
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Sweet condensed fig!

And Grant is clearly a baller...


paul d hunt
24.Jan.2006 3.35pm
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well... here goes nuffin:


Grant Hutchinson
24.Jan.2006 4.03pm
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Nuffin? That’s damn near sumpin, Paul.


paul d hunt
24.Jan.2006 4.10pm
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well it ain’t what it should be, but i figgered it’d do for this game. thanx for the compliments, grant!


gurlangel16
24.Jan.2006 6.55pm
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I just found this board the other day and thought I would join in. I am going to give this a shot.


gurlangel16
24.Jan.2006 7.02pm
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This may sound dumb, but how are you putting the images up. I used the img src= code but it didn’t show up. Thanks!


paul d hunt
24.Jan.2006 7.34pm
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This may sound dumb, but how are you putting the images up.

please see http://typophile.com/faqs


dezcom
24.Jan.2006 7.35pm
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Thinking about Franklin and Swash brought Pepsi to mind so I did this. It needs work but I don’t have time right now to make it decent.

ChrisL


gurlangel16
24.Jan.2006 7.43pm
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Sorry, I must be blind. The link is right in front of my face.


paul d hunt
24.Jan.2006 8.33pm
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chris, that was only two. you owe us one more!


Isaac
24.Jan.2006 9.00pm
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Well, I didn’t exactly make these swashes. I borrowed them from Robert Slimbach. I hope he doesn’t mind.

How long will my banishment last?


timd
25.Jan.2006 6.48am
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Swashgasm


Tim
{the magic of editing}


dan_reynolds
25.Jan.2006 7.33am
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That’s just two swash characters… it doesn’t count ;-D


timd
25.Jan.2006 8.20am
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I peaked early


Zara Evens
25.Jan.2006 10.04am
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Tim, I don’t think I can accept those as being swashes. And like Dan said, there are only two — minimum requirement is three. :) Please try again!

Isaac, those are some serious clip-on additions but I don’t think the Slimbach swashes are a legal entry.

How long will my banishment last?
Imagine me saying this with a very deep voice and an echo: Forever
Just kidding :)


dezcom
25.Jan.2006 11.12am
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“How long will my banishment last?”

5 years without parole, “Book’m Danno!” :-)

ChrisL


timd
25.Jan.2006 12.35pm
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C’mon you just aren’t swashing enough
Tim


rfenwick
25.Jan.2006 12.42pm
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This is a great exercise to watch, very entertaining concepts and wonderful craftsmanship in a lot of cases. It’s also strangely uncomfortable and funny to see this respectable old workhorse all tarted up, like seeing Walter Cronkite walking around in short jean-shorts.

As for the implant of that image in your mind, you are very welcome.

Zara and Mark get my vote... Ol’ Walter never looked so saucy.


Jared Benson
25.Jan.2006 12.44pm
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My take: I think of a Swash as similar to the relationship between a Roman character and its corresponding Italic. It’s not merely the same glyph with a flourish tacked on, but rather has it’s own unique outline(s).


marcox
25.Jan.2006 12.48pm
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On a related topic, ITC just released an OpenType version of Bookman, with all of its glorious swashiness restored:

http://www.itcfonts.com/Fonts/NewFonts/2006/Jan2006.htm


dan_reynolds
25.Jan.2006 1.03pm
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“Book’m Danno!” :-)

I’m a swash-buckler (har har…)


speter
25.Jan.2006 2.24pm
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I think Joe’s reworking of the Microsoft logo would please Rollie Fingers.


Isaac
25.Jan.2006 3.34pm
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I agree with Jared’s idea of a swash glyph. I was kind of poking at the combinatorial nature of the battles so far. I figured the cut-and-paste thievery was appropriately inappropriate. I know it’s hard for typophiles to read words rather than examine faces, layout, etc, but I’m sure you noticed it says pomo. Isn’t tacky what pomo is all about? Anyway, I’ll take my punishment.


johnwalsh
25.Jan.2006 3.58pm
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dezcom
25.Jan.2006 5.04pm
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“I’m a swash-buckler”

Dan, You stole my line! :-)

ChrisL


johnwalsh
25.Jan.2006 5.15pm
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I didn’t mean mine to be so big


dezcom
25.Jan.2006 6.33pm
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OK Dan, This is what I was working on when I said you “stole my line” :-)

ChrisL


dezcom
25.Jan.2006 7.00pm
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Here is a slight variation on the above :-)

ChrisL


gabrielhl
25.Jan.2006 7.43pm
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Just some joking around:

If these guys only knew what would happen to their names...
(sorry for the white aliasing)


cheshiredave
25.Jan.2006 8.26pm
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OK, now that I’ve seen all these other lovely entries, I can’t let my initial tameness stand — here’s a revision of one of my glyphs (I already posted three, so I don’t wanna hear any guff).


duncan
25.Jan.2006 9.44pm
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I’m new at this - as a matter of fact, this is my first time posting anything on Typophile - but I guess I gotta start somewhere...

Duncan


Ricardo Cordoba
25.Jan.2006 9.58pm
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You guys all rock! My favorites so far are by: Joe, Ale, William and Mark... also Zara’s second post. It’s nice to come home from a too-long day and see all this great work!


Joe Pemberton
26.Jan.2006 1.49am
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Haha. Thanks guys. I have to say I’m pretty proud of the MSFT remix. It’s amazing how iconic (recognizable, even when remixed) something as straightforward as the MSFT logotype can become after spending millions of dollars to advertise it and package it.

Steve, I had to google “Rollie Fingers”... (For the rest of you uninitiated: http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22Rollie%20Finge... )


Tony Easley
26.Jan.2006 4.09am
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First time poster on here, be gentle with me! First year illustration student with little type experience!


dewitte
26.Jan.2006 5.40am
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joe
26.Jan.2006 6.43am
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How about this? Makes me think of soap somehow...


dezcom
26.Jan.2006 7.03am
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Johannes,
Very nice! mostly the w and h are terrific. The S may need a bit of a tweak.

ChrisL


Jared Benson
26.Jan.2006 7.28am
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Chesh,

The tail on this new g is much improved over the last one. Nice to see the full stroke. Kudos.


cheshiredave
26.Jan.2006 10.47am
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Thanks, Jared — it was your earlier comment about what you see defining a swash that made me realize I needed to open up the bottom and not just imply the continuity.


hrant
26.Jan.2006 11.27am
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Chesh, that’s the most narcissistic glyph I’ve ever seen!

hhp


Jared Benson
26.Jan.2006 12.08pm
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Hrant, we’re all still waiting for you to throw your hat into the ring. How bout it?


hrant
26.Jan.2006 12.16pm
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Right now I’m wearing too many hats to choose one! :-/

hhp


dezcom
26.Jan.2006 12.24pm
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One of those hats is called Pampers? :-)

ChrisL


dezcom
26.Jan.2006 12.27pm
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Do you think Rollie Fingers could handle the Bar exam? :-)

ChrisL


cheshiredave
26.Jan.2006 12.35pm
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Narcissistic? I don’t know, I was thinking “foofy”...


Giovanni Jubert
26.Jan.2006 1.24pm
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Good job, you all.

Let me share something,...
I am reading this from the computer lab
of the Grad.Com.D of Pratt Manhattan,
so i get excited and i think, “let’s play!”
open illustrator, and guess what.
No Franklin on the font list.

Oh my Gothic!!

G.

i’ll be back with some swashes!


speter
26.Jan.2006 5.45pm
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Do you think Rollie Fingers could handle the Bar exam? :-)

Chris, I knew I could count on you to pitch in a pun for some relief.


dezcom
26.Jan.2006 5.58pm
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It was a slider but you are still the closer Steve :-)

ChrisL


baronius
26.Jan.2006 7.22pm
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vote: Zara, Zara, Chesh


duncan
26.Jan.2006 7.23pm
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Everyone’s entries are so impressive. I had to give this a second try.

Footnote: I borrowed some swash ideas from Poetica.

Duncan


Isaac
26.Jan.2006 8.02pm
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Uh-oh.


lunyboy
26.Jan.2006 8.43pm
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Super Vanilla... small preview.

Needs Kerning help and I am not sure about the F terminal... perhaps a more humanist stroke... anyone for a bigger preview?


timd
27.Jan.2006 7.00am
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Okay let’s try again


Tim


Jared Benson
27.Jan.2006 8.25am
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lunyboy, let’s see it larger!


lunyboy
27.Jan.2006 4.25pm
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Ok, bigger... I liked the Bodoni Swash so much, I patterned this after it.


Jared Benson
27.Jan.2006 4.46pm
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Great work everyone! Lots of diverse interpretations of the challenge, and a fair amount of swash-grafting from other fonts. So what’s everyone’s thoughts? Did anyone dominate this challenge, and if so, why/how?

jb


letter queue
27.Jan.2006 5.07pm
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luny,
Great rendition, your appropriation seems...well...appropriate.
The finial on the F is a bit black though, I’d like to see what it would look like if you shortened the curl to end parallel with the crossbar?


pica pusher
27.Jan.2006 5.28pm
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As a purist I feel like the most successful interpretations were those that obeyed the Franklin Gothic framework of low stroke modulation and square corners. (Like mine? Yes.) That said, most of these ended up feeling rather unimaginative. (Like mine...? Yes.) The most exciting turned out to be the ones where the swash was obviously out of place, but was used so confidently that it somehow seemed to make sense. A lesson that holds true in all fields of art: if something is a conscious, confident decision, the viewer has no choice but to accept it!


Zara Evens
27.Jan.2006 5.36pm
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I still think Christian’s “art” submission is wonderful. The swashes are well-crafted, original and unexpected.

This was touched on before, but much credit goes to those submissions that truly could be used as alternates for the FG family. Jared, Mark, Dan (pica pusher), and Grant stand out.

Oh, and I like mine :)


dezcom
27.Jan.2006 6.02pm
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While most of us kept pretty close to the expected result of swash, I think Johannes Blümel was the most creative in pushing the envelope of “what is swash” to begin with.
We had some nice uses in keeping with the nature of Franklin—and a few miss-matched prosthetic devices as well :-)

ChrisL


lunyboy
27.Jan.2006 7.11pm
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Yup, much better... thanks Pusher, I tend to get a little tunnel vision with my focus. See y’all next week. ;)


etothev
29.Jan.2006 4.33pm
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dewitte
30.Jan.2006 8.14am
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Well Christian or Jared; What will be the new challenge?
Ready to battle.


G T
1.Feb.2006 2.20pm
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here you go. what do you think?


xochipilli
4.Feb.2006 9.45am
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Hi,
this is my first post here and I’m not sure if it’s ok to post after the deadline, but I’ll risk :)


hrant
4.Feb.2006 10.58am
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Wow, etothev, now we’re talking swashy notan.

hhp


dezcom
4.Feb.2006 12.28pm
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Eric,
Very nice “gothic” swirl—takes Coke to the level of meaning instead of just device. Well done.

ChrisL

PS: Is Ruth Geshecter still in Cincy?


Faiyaz
7.Jan.2008 2.46am
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*bump*

What happened to this? Is anyone going to continue it?


russellm
7.Jan.2008 5.58pm
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great idea. perhaps a new challenge?

-=®=-


Bald Condensed
10.Jan.2008 12.09pm
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The new challenge can be found here.


typomil
29.Feb.2008 10.12am
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Go, Frankie, Go!