Type Battle! Week 2 (23 Jan)
TYPE BATTLE: Week 2 (23 Jan)
Here's your chance to stretch your type muscles on a weekly basis. Each game kicks off on Monday with a new challenge, and closes at midnight PST on Friday. Anyone may submit a design response to the challenge. You may enter as often as you wish. Post anytime. Critiques and comments are welcome throughout the game, from participants and spectators alike. Smack talk is encouraged.
Winner take all, no holds barred. May be the best designer win.
Requirements:
- Size: 600 width x 400 height.
- Color: Black and white only
- Format: Please save your graphics as PNG
- Only respond with the characters posted in the challenge.
// THIS WEEK'S CHALLENGE:
// Create three swash characters for Franklin Gothic.















23.Jan.2006 12.25pm
I’m fairly certain what swash characters are...and have checked typowiki to no avail. Could we get an explanation for those of us not 100% on what we’re designing here? Thanks!
23.Jan.2006 12.38pm
1 2 3 4 5 6
23.Jan.2006 12.49pm
7 - Mark Simonson’s Courier Flair
23.Jan.2006 12.57pm
Can I suggest that the requirement say, “Create at least three swash characters for Franklin Gothic?”
23.Jan.2006 12.58pm
Ok, thanks guys! This should be interesting since Franklin Gothic is such a neutral typeface.
23.Jan.2006 3.16pm
These are pretty basic, I guess, but here’s my first stab at it...
(revised post, now flouting two rules — thanks, Joe!)
23.Jan.2006 4.20pm
Dude, post “Rain King” please. Bollocks to the rules. =)
Or, you could do, “Richard Kegler”.
23.Jan.2006 6.02pm
who needs rules? bring the swash!
23.Jan.2006 6.02pm
I’m only encouraging breaking the rules, because mine is going to and nobody is going to stop me! =)
23.Jan.2006 7.24pm
OK, if we are allowed to break the rules, here is my Franklin Gothic:
ChrisL
23.Jan.2006 7.41pm
Franklinstein. It’s alive! Alive!
23.Jan.2006 7.56pm
but where are your swashes, chris?
23.Jan.2006 8.41pm
I don’t know how to introduce this:
23.Jan.2006 9.07pm
Christian, now that is just fantastic! You win.
23.Jan.2006 9.17pm
You guys have all cracked me up tonight!!!
But I suspect that the ideas for this contest are being hatched in the Black Lodge. ;-)
23.Jan.2006 9.25pm
frankie goes lowercase.
23.Jan.2006 9.36pm
Don’t know why, but I’m getting this vibe that Franklin’s swashes
should be pixelated... Maybe using pixels of deceasing size with
distance; sort of metaphorical of Franklin having stroke contrast.
hhp
23.Jan.2006 9.50pm
Well, then let’s pixelate it.
Maybe that’s a good job for the microfoundry,
since pixels are so small.
23.Jan.2006 9.57pm
23.Jan.2006 10.18pm
Beautiful, Mattijs. Dig that terminal i.
Franklinstein rides again:
23.Jan.2006 10.19pm
Microsoft has the most famous use of Franklin Gothic. (Okay, so the logo is based on Franklin Gothic.) Of course, I had to keep the ’os’ ligature.
23.Jan.2006 10.38pm
23.Jan.2006 10.43pm
Punchcut dominates Franklin™
23.Jan.2006 11.13pm
Extra points to jared and mattijs for doing characters that will work along side the default characters in the font.
Killer zed by the way, zara.
23.Jan.2006 11.43pm
I knew mine was too tame — badass work, y’all.
Joe, are those Snidely Whiplash mustaches you drew on there? If so, mightily well done.
24.Jan.2006 12.51am
Go Franklin Go
pd
24.Jan.2006 6.19am
I did not resist so here is a fast one
24.Jan.2006 6.46am
Wow I like the lowercase ones a lot more than I thought I would... can’t resist...
Now we back to rock the minuscule, hide yo eyes ya fool, can’t stop the Franklin from ranklin yo stankin rules!
(sorry)
24.Jan.2006 7.00am
I’m loving this! You guys have all done great work so far. Keep it up!
I’m seeing Frankin Gothic in a whole new light now. I used to work in-house for an insurance company where FG was one of the corporate faces. Since then, I’ve found it a bit dull. But this — this makes me appreciate it all over again!
(Sorry, no entry from me — just a spectator/cheerleader here.)
24.Jan.2006 7.19am
Pica pusher, that last one is super duper.
hhp
24.Jan.2006 7.19am
Resistance is useless.
Damn you, you’ve made it even more so:
[edit: I got the T ok, then started on the D & A, when I got an attack of temporary sanity, and quit!]
24.Jan.2006 8.36am
Not sure if that C works.
24.Jan.2006 9.01am
Curl the top as well and it will.
hhp
24.Jan.2006 9.19am
or maybe just the top?
24.Jan.2006 9.19am
Hmm...
You might have something there, Hrant.
24.Jan.2006 9.59am
Dang, Pica (Dan), your stuff rocks. Morris Fuller Benton would be proud.
And, Mark, it’s just a given that we’re not worthy to be in your presence. =)
24.Jan.2006 10.17am
24.Jan.2006 10.20am
we’re not worthy
Oh, no. Don’t start that. You can stop by any time.
(I think you guys must be spying on me. I have something along these lines on my to-do list, so I’ve been thinking about this “problem” for a while. Not Franklin, though.)
24.Jan.2006 10.21am
Thanks Joe. Actually I particularly liked your “nightmare before micro$oft”: completely unexpected.
24.Jan.2006 10.38am
I like Christian’s, too. Franklin Gothic Floriated.
24.Jan.2006 11.01am
Dan (Pica), thanks. I’m glad you see the humor in it. It’s funny that you made the Tim Burton connection... clearly I need to work on my bezier skillz. (Inspired by FF Ginger.) =)
24.Jan.2006 11.28am
I have tears in my eyes. These are gorgeous. Testament to your talent. Some of these really take Franklin to a realistic new place.
24.Jan.2006 11.40am
24.Jan.2006 11.54am
Franklin Gothic gets ballsy!
24.Jan.2006 12.45pm
Lovely interpretation, Grant!
24.Jan.2006 1.16pm
24.Jan.2006 1.42pm
Sweet condensed fig!
And Grant is clearly a baller...
24.Jan.2006 3.35pm
well... here goes nuffin:
24.Jan.2006 4.03pm
Nuffin? That’s damn near sumpin, Paul.
24.Jan.2006 4.10pm
well it ain’t what it should be, but i figgered it’d do for this game. thanx for the compliments, grant!
24.Jan.2006 6.55pm
I just found this board the other day and thought I would join in. I am going to give this a shot.
24.Jan.2006 7.02pm
This may sound dumb, but how are you putting the images up. I used the img src= code but it didn’t show up. Thanks!
24.Jan.2006 7.34pm
This may sound dumb, but how are you putting the images up.
please see http://typophile.com/faqs
24.Jan.2006 7.35pm
Thinking about Franklin and Swash brought Pepsi to mind so I did this. It needs work but I don’t have time right now to make it decent.
ChrisL
24.Jan.2006 7.43pm
Sorry, I must be blind. The link is right in front of my face.
24.Jan.2006 8.33pm
chris, that was only two. you owe us one more!
24.Jan.2006 9.00pm
Well, I didn’t exactly make these swashes. I borrowed them from Robert Slimbach. I hope he doesn’t mind.
How long will my banishment last?
25.Jan.2006 6.48am
Swashgasm
Tim
{the magic of editing}
25.Jan.2006 7.33am
That’s just two swash characters… it doesn’t count ;-D
25.Jan.2006 8.20am
I peaked early
25.Jan.2006 10.04am
Tim, I don’t think I can accept those as being swashes. And like Dan said, there are only two — minimum requirement is three. :) Please try again!
Isaac, those are some serious clip-on additions but I don’t think the Slimbach swashes are a legal entry.
How long will my banishment last?
Imagine me saying this with a very deep voice and an echo: Forever
Just kidding :)
25.Jan.2006 11.12am
“How long will my banishment last?”
5 years without parole, “Book’m Danno!” :-)
ChrisL
25.Jan.2006 12.35pm
C’mon you just aren’t swashing enough
Tim
25.Jan.2006 12.42pm
This is a great exercise to watch, very entertaining concepts and wonderful craftsmanship in a lot of cases. It’s also strangely uncomfortable and funny to see this respectable old workhorse all tarted up, like seeing Walter Cronkite walking around in short jean-shorts.
As for the implant of that image in your mind, you are very welcome.
Zara and Mark get my vote... Ol’ Walter never looked so saucy.
25.Jan.2006 12.44pm
My take: I think of a Swash as similar to the relationship between a Roman character and its corresponding Italic. It’s not merely the same glyph with a flourish tacked on, but rather has it’s own unique outline(s).
25.Jan.2006 12.48pm
On a related topic, ITC just released an OpenType version of Bookman, with all of its glorious swashiness restored:
http://www.itcfonts.com/Fonts/NewFonts/2006/Jan2006.htm
25.Jan.2006 1.03pm
“Book’m Danno!” :-)
I’m a swash-buckler (har har…)
25.Jan.2006 2.24pm
I think Joe’s reworking of the Microsoft logo would please Rollie Fingers.
25.Jan.2006 3.34pm
I agree with Jared’s idea of a swash glyph. I was kind of poking at the combinatorial nature of the battles so far. I figured the cut-and-paste thievery was appropriately inappropriate. I know it’s hard for typophiles to read words rather than examine faces, layout, etc, but I’m sure you noticed it says pomo. Isn’t tacky what pomo is all about? Anyway, I’ll take my punishment.
25.Jan.2006 3.58pm
25.Jan.2006 5.04pm
“I’m a swash-buckler”
Dan, You stole my line! :-)
ChrisL
25.Jan.2006 5.15pm
I didn’t mean mine to be so big
25.Jan.2006 6.33pm
OK Dan, This is what I was working on when I said you “stole my line” :-)
ChrisL
25.Jan.2006 7.00pm
Here is a slight variation on the above :-)
ChrisL
25.Jan.2006 7.43pm
Just some joking around:
If these guys only knew what would happen to their names...
(sorry for the white aliasing)
25.Jan.2006 8.26pm
OK, now that I’ve seen all these other lovely entries, I can’t let my initial tameness stand — here’s a revision of one of my glyphs (I already posted three, so I don’t wanna hear any guff).
25.Jan.2006 9.44pm
I’m new at this - as a matter of fact, this is my first time posting anything on Typophile - but I guess I gotta start somewhere...
Duncan
25.Jan.2006 9.58pm
You guys all rock! My favorites so far are by: Joe, Ale, William and Mark... also Zara’s second post. It’s nice to come home from a too-long day and see all this great work!
26.Jan.2006 1.49am
Haha. Thanks guys. I have to say I’m pretty proud of the MSFT remix. It’s amazing how iconic (recognizable, even when remixed) something as straightforward as the MSFT logotype can become after spending millions of dollars to advertise it and package it.
Steve, I had to google “Rollie Fingers”... (For the rest of you uninitiated: http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22Rollie%20Finge... )
26.Jan.2006 4.09am
First time poster on here, be gentle with me! First year illustration student with little type experience!
26.Jan.2006 5.40am
26.Jan.2006 6.43am
How about this? Makes me think of soap somehow...
26.Jan.2006 7.03am
Johannes,
Very nice! mostly the w and h are terrific. The S may need a bit of a tweak.
ChrisL
26.Jan.2006 7.28am
Chesh,
The tail on this new g is much improved over the last one. Nice to see the full stroke. Kudos.
26.Jan.2006 10.47am
Thanks, Jared — it was your earlier comment about what you see defining a swash that made me realize I needed to open up the bottom and not just imply the continuity.
26.Jan.2006 11.27am
Chesh, that’s the most narcissistic glyph I’ve ever seen!
hhp
26.Jan.2006 12.08pm
Hrant, we’re all still waiting for you to throw your hat into the ring. How bout it?
26.Jan.2006 12.16pm
Right now I’m wearing too many hats to choose one! :-/
hhp
26.Jan.2006 12.24pm
One of those hats is called Pampers? :-)
ChrisL
26.Jan.2006 12.27pm
Do you think Rollie Fingers could handle the Bar exam? :-)
ChrisL
26.Jan.2006 12.35pm
Narcissistic? I don’t know, I was thinking “foofy”...
26.Jan.2006 1.24pm
Good job, you all.
Let me share something,...
I am reading this from the computer lab
of the Grad.Com.D of Pratt Manhattan,
so i get excited and i think, “let’s play!”
open illustrator, and guess what.
No Franklin on the font list.
Oh my Gothic!!
G.
i’ll be back with some swashes!
26.Jan.2006 5.45pm
Do you think Rollie Fingers could handle the Bar exam? :-)
Chris, I knew I could count on you to pitch in a pun for some relief.
26.Jan.2006 5.58pm
It was a slider but you are still the closer Steve :-)
ChrisL
26.Jan.2006 7.22pm
vote: Zara, Zara, Chesh
26.Jan.2006 7.23pm
Everyone’s entries are so impressive. I had to give this a second try.
Footnote: I borrowed some swash ideas from Poetica.
Duncan
26.Jan.2006 8.02pm
Uh-oh.
26.Jan.2006 8.43pm
Super Vanilla... small preview.
Needs Kerning help and I am not sure about the F terminal... perhaps a more humanist stroke... anyone for a bigger preview?
27.Jan.2006 7.00am
Okay let’s try again
Tim
27.Jan.2006 8.25am
lunyboy, let’s see it larger!
27.Jan.2006 4.25pm
Ok, bigger... I liked the Bodoni Swash so much, I patterned this after it.
27.Jan.2006 4.46pm
Great work everyone! Lots of diverse interpretations of the challenge, and a fair amount of swash-grafting from other fonts. So what’s everyone’s thoughts? Did anyone dominate this challenge, and if so, why/how?
jb
27.Jan.2006 5.07pm
luny,
Great rendition, your appropriation seems...well...appropriate.
The finial on the F is a bit black though, I’d like to see what it would look like if you shortened the curl to end parallel with the crossbar?
27.Jan.2006 5.28pm
As a purist I feel like the most successful interpretations were those that obeyed the Franklin Gothic framework of low stroke modulation and square corners. (Like mine? Yes.) That said, most of these ended up feeling rather unimaginative. (Like mine...? Yes.) The most exciting turned out to be the ones where the swash was obviously out of place, but was used so confidently that it somehow seemed to make sense. A lesson that holds true in all fields of art: if something is a conscious, confident decision, the viewer has no choice but to accept it!
27.Jan.2006 5.36pm
I still think Christian’s “art” submission is wonderful. The swashes are well-crafted, original and unexpected.
This was touched on before, but much credit goes to those submissions that truly could be used as alternates for the FG family. Jared, Mark, Dan (pica pusher), and Grant stand out.
Oh, and I like mine :)
27.Jan.2006 6.02pm
While most of us kept pretty close to the expected result of swash, I think Johannes Blümel was the most creative in pushing the envelope of “what is swash” to begin with.
We had some nice uses in keeping with the nature of Franklin—and a few miss-matched prosthetic devices as well :-)
ChrisL
27.Jan.2006 7.11pm
Yup, much better... thanks Pusher, I tend to get a little tunnel vision with my focus. See y’all next week. ;)
29.Jan.2006 4.33pm
30.Jan.2006 8.14am
Well Christian or Jared; What will be the new challenge?
Ready to battle.
1.Feb.2006 2.20pm
here you go. what do you think?
4.Feb.2006 9.45am
Hi,
this is my first post here and I’m not sure if it’s ok to post after the deadline, but I’ll risk :)
4.Feb.2006 10.58am
Wow, etothev, now we’re talking swashy notan.
hhp
4.Feb.2006 12.28pm
Eric,
Very nice “gothic” swirl—takes Coke to the level of meaning instead of just device. Well done.
ChrisL
PS: Is Ruth Geshecter still in Cincy?
7.Jan.2008 2.46am
*bump*
What happened to this? Is anyone going to continue it?
7.Jan.2008 5.58pm
great idea. perhaps a new challenge?
-=®=-
10.Jan.2008 12.09pm
The new challenge can be found here.
29.Feb.2008 10.12am
Go, Frankie, Go!